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Old 06-11-2011, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi everyone. NNG here, nicky new guy.....
i have had salt water for about 18 mths. just stumbled upon johns reef cleaners site a while ago, cool stuff. my first question is what type of macro do i use to naturally filter my tank and use as display. just bought 10 macro frag special, 3 mermaid shot glass and 4 Dictyota ciliolata.

Tank perameters, 55 gallon, 110 lbs live rock, nitrite 0, ammonia 0, ph 8.3 nitrate 10 and phosphate .25

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55 gal cleaner pack john sold me, did a nice job john, thanks
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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my first question is what type of macro do i use to naturally filter my tank and use as display.
I have a combination of cheato and caluerpa that I introduced and whole spectrum of gnarly looking stuff growing all over the place that I didn't invite.

As long as it is all contained in the fuge I don't mind, even the stuff that would surely be considered a pest in the display tank.


but as far as a display goes...hmm, see here...

Macro Algea


am I seeing doubles?
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A questionfor the powers to be. i have a refugium with cheato and a little bit of macro in thedisplay. i have not had to change water in 4 mths. my nitrates and phosphates remain at 0. magnesium is at 1400, kh is 10 and calcium is at 500. my question is if this stays this way do i need to do water changes. i add distilled water with a SG of 1.026 every 4 - 6 weeks due to evaporation, about 5 gallons.

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A questionfor the powers to be. i have a refugium with cheato and a little bit of macro in thedisplay. i have not had to change water in 4 mths. my nitrates and phosphates remain at 0. magnesium is at 1400, kh is 10 and calcium is at 500. my question is if this stays this way do i need to do water changes. i add distilled water with a SG of 1.026 every 4 - 6 weeks due to evaporation, about 5 gallons.
My 1st. question to you is: What is the salinity in your tank like??
Adding water with salt as top off will raise your SG through the roof!!!!!! When replacing water do to evaporation you only need to replace with either ro/di, or distilled water. Reason is that salt does not evaporate, only the water evaporates.
As to your question on water changes: We do w/c to replace supplements & minerals that over time diminish. I see your pars are staying within the desired pars. Just one thing though: we cannot measure for everything. Small weekly, or biweekly w/c is what most of us do.
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Before i added water i checked salinity and it was at 1.019. I even took a water sample to my LFS. They confirmed it. I added water with a higher salinity and checked it again the day after, thats where i got the salinity of 1.026. checked it again a week later andit is stable at 1.026
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My 1st. question to you is: What is the salinity in your tank like??
Adding water with salt as top off will raise your SG through the roof!!!!!! ....

That is the same exact question I had
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Before i added water i checked salinity and it was at 1.019. I even took a water sample to my LFS. They confirmed it. I added water with a higher salinity and checked it again the day after, thats where i got the salinity of 1.026. checked it again a week later andit is stable at 1.026

That is fine if you wanted to increase salinity; although I think jumping from 1.019 to 1.026 in one water change is a bit too big a jump.

To answer your initial question.....yes, you do need water changes to add trace elements to the water. If your parameters are fine and you don't have a crazy collection of SPS these elements may not be depleted as fast but regular water changes are a must.

I'm not going to lie to you, up until very recently I had the same dilemma. I did water changes (LARGE) once every 3 months or so because I didn't see problems with nitrates or phosphates. I added this and that ocassionally, but without testing you shouldn't really add anything!

Recently I spoke to a very knowledgeable and sucessful reef keeper and to keep it short and I came home and threw everything out. Every additive I had went straight to garbage. The money I save on all this crap will go to offset salt purchases. Except maybe for some buffer and alk, I won't dose anything (except peroxide ). I will do water changes more often to replenish whatever is missing. Keep in mind that I keep softies mostly so a lot of things like dosing calcium for example don't apply to me.

Bottom line. Yes, you need water changes
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Thanks guys, my tank is going on 2 yrs old and is primarily LPS which is why the calcium doesnt fluctuate as much. I amcurrently in the market for more coral and am looking at more softies. I will go back to 10% w/c every other week.
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BTW, i do not dose with anything other than Purple up and Lugols.
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I have never used Purple Up, so what I say is what I have read, and been told by other reefers.

"Purple Up is garbage, and you shouldn't use it. Your tank will get the purple coralline on it's own."

Like I said, I am quoting in the above statement. Let's hear from those who have used it.
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I have never used Purple Up, so what I say is what I have read, and been told by other reefers.

"Purple Up is garbage, and you shouldn't use it. Your tank will get the purple coralline on it's own."

Like I said, I am quoting in the above statement. Let's hear from those who have used it.
I never used it and my tank is purple, 'nuff said

Seriosly, if I wanted to introduce koraline algae I would just ask a friend to scrape some from their tank. I have layers of it growing on the back and rocks. Urchins are great at scraping it but they never managed to make a dent.

Never used purple up so can't comment directly. Dmarion, what are the ingridients in it?
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