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Old 01-29-2011, 04:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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your not wrong, i am just wondering also. I think because PC lighting is less intense, lights can be placed closer to the tank with longer light periods but bulbs have come a long way and i may be off.
They have come along ways but still could improve , yet I think they are done improving with the other light sourse on the market ... I have them at about 3 inches above lighting is reduced to the 5/4 so that I can see the tank and still light it but lesser time .. Feedings are strictly done Wed and sundays ! No more than they can eat in 15 seconds or so ... I have actually been fighting this for a bit longer than what the posts say but I felt with the changing of the RO/DI this would help as well as some booku changes of water . Reduce the nutrient load , and dilute it out ...

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I mentioned light because that is the thing that I would address based on your statement.

At 8W per gallon, you have a lot of light in your tank. Keep in mind also, that 8W per gallon in a 24-30" tall tank is entirely different from 8W a gallon in a tank that is only 10-12" tall.

Most people who run MH lights on their large tanks don't reach that wattage.

Take a 6 ft. tank with 3 x 250W MH and 4 t5s for actinics and you end up with about 960Watts

If the tank is a.... it equals to ...

125 Gallons - 7.78 Watt/Gallon - 22" tall (18" wide)

135 Gallons - 7.11 Watt/Gallon - 24" tall (18" wide)

180 Gallons - 5.33 Watt/Gallon - 24" tall (24" wide)

220 Gallons - 4.36 Watt/Gallon - 30" tall (24" wide)

Change that 120G to a 4 foot tank and the numbers drastically fall when you take 1MH out (now 710 Watts or 5.68 W/Gallon )


Your tank

10 Gallons - 8W/Gallon - 10-12" tall (10-12" wide)?


Do you see a contrast?

Your light hits and bounces off the sand at full intensity. You are currently doing a blackout for a few days, it would be counter productive to blast it back with light at this intensity for 8 hours a day. Try 5 hours a day for actinics and 4 hours a day for daylight and very slowly increase it.

Somebody please correct me if I am way off.
blacking out was a drastic measure and last resort to every thing else I tried , my skimmer is not producing but I believe this to be due to the water being clean.

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I have to say that smaller tanks are definitely a lot more difficult. Puffer, i don't think the same rules apply when the lights are PC.

Sadie, when was the last time you changed bulbs? and definitely be patient, changes wont happen overnight, and if they do, prepare for a crash.
Bulbs were changed 10-7-2010 at 11 am
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Can you elaborate on that? Which pads?
carbon filter pads

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You have to be patient with these guys. Chemi pure is to be left in the tank for months. Phosguard doesn't work overnight. I leave it for months at a time or until it turns dark orange/brown.

Give it time, be patient. This problem didn't appear over-night and will take just as long to disappear.
I actually ran both for a period of 2 months and changed out the phosguard when it discolored and replaced it to prevent leeching

I do see it but I dont believe the wpg rule is used any more ... it is a guidline but not as much as it use to be
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Old 01-29-2011, 06:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Click the image to open in full size.some corals from my orginal pics did not survive due to the dinos Go ahead ya can laugh at the sucky tank
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:27 AM   #23 (permalink)
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They have come along ways but still could improve ,

According to a recent speaker at a local society PC bulbs are more intense than T5s (not HOs I believe)

It does make sense. Power compacts do look exactly like t5s bend half way and folded giving it a more compact size and intensity per package.


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... my skimmer is not producing but I believe this to be due to the water being clean.
I don't think that is possible.

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Oh, OK, I though that maybe you're changing regular filter pads exporting beneficial bacteria in the process.

How many pads are changed at a time? If more than one you should stagger your changes.


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I actually ran both for a period of 2 months and changed out the phosguard when it discolored and replaced it to prevent leeching
2 months sound about right that of course depends on your original concetration.

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I do see it but I dont believe the wpg rule is used any more ... it is a guidline but not as much as it use to be
I am not an expert on small tanks so don't know if the same rule applies. I've kept softies sucesfully within a range of 1.2 - 2.6 Watts per Gallon. 8 W/G just seems extreme to me.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Click the image to open in full size.some corals from my orginal pics did not survive due to the dinos Go ahead ya can laugh at the sucky tank
If these are your recent pics, then I am not sure what the problem is. I think it looks great. I see a small patch of hair algae but other than that I don't think I see anything wrong.
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Old 01-30-2011, 12:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If these are your recent pics, then I am not sure what the problem is. I think it looks great. I see a small patch of hair algae but other than that I don't think I see anything wrong.
There are 4 or 5 small patches . I scrub them off and they come back . Hopefully some time this week I can spike my MG up a bit .. I will spike a container to get the "feel" before I do the tank





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According to a recent speaker at a local society PC bulbs are more intense than T5s (not HOs I believe)

It does make sense. Power compacts do look exactly like t5s bend half way and folded giving it a more compact size and intensity per package.




I don't think that is possible.

Why is that doing 60% water changes 2 times a week to drop the nutrient level would not leave it clean
Oh, OK, I though that maybe you're changing regular filter pads exporting beneficial bacteria in the process.

How many pads are changed at a time? If more than one you should stagger your changes. The filter only holds one carbon pad so it is the only one I have




2 months sound about right that of course depends on your original concetration.

True I am just not sure if any leached back in ... I assume no but ya never know ..
I am not an expert on small tanks so don't know if the same rule applies. I've kept softies sucesfully within a range of 1.2 - 2.6 Watts per Gallon. 8 W/G just seems extreme to me.
Softies yes but zoas and LPS generally require "more" intense lighting ...
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Things seem to have slowed down or at least have not progressed ,,, I have been agressive to try to kick this stuff , however I have had some great advice here , I was told to try mag so on my trip to TPP in lancaster (Last time there the jerks) I could not locate a small bottle ,liquid form nor the test kits
and with out those I do not dose .... I do not wish to have gallons of this stuff sitting around .. So I got a lettuce nudi insted to try and nip this stuff ...and some other rocking corals , but mainly all I got was a headache from them !!
Yesterday was a night mare and while I got some things I was not impressed at all with them and will not support them again , if I need things I will get it from fosters and smith ..
Here is the low down on it ,
It started in the am that I was going to call and order the weird stuff and let them know I would come and pick it up ... I called right at 9 am and was on hold for 30 minutes well we were cutting it close to leave or not so I hung up ... We got there a bit delayed but got there ... We have only been there a couple times before (twice to be exact, and both times were a week day) We went in to the fish room stood for 30 minutes when I finally figured out that you need to take a number ....PISSED I was massively pissed !! 3 items sold out that I wanted !! because no one greeted me and said did you get a number ... Next , they no longer carry many nano items they stopped carring my bulbs , they are now mainly exclusive to LED and MH .. You can not get an answer to anything !!
3rd if you dont have other pets you may not appreciate this as much but the bird toy and cat toy selection is CRAP!! They had none of the foods that I feed my guys at all ... Gone they no longer stock it ....
They over charged me for some items that I realized at check out they were rude about it , and did not fix it ....Then when I got home , realized they charged me for something I did not get ... I honestly thought they were honest guess not ... I also wanted to pick up some things that the ceo left he said I picked them up !?! NOPE never got them he got free advertising on 2 of our sites and I got goose egg ... I say they are not worth the frapping trip ...
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lol i completely understand about that weekend number system, i went once years ago and stood around for almost an hour trying to get someone to help me till i realized i need a freakin ticket DOH.


I love having good LFS's in my area but i always call first if i need something, and if they don't then i order online for the most part. I normally wait till i have enough in the cart so shipping is free.
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lol i completely understand about that weekend number system, i went once years ago and stood around for almost an hour trying to get someone to help me till i realized i need a freakin ticket DOH.


I love having good LFS's in my area but i always call first if i need something, and if they don't then i order online for the most part. I normally wait till i have enough in the cart so shipping is free.
Well the way they brag that people come from all over you would think they would let "new" faces know or have it posted somewhere that you need a FRAPPING number !!! So the stuff I wanted was sold why cause I stood there waiting to be waited on and it sold ... I could have had it had I had a number , thats ok I wasted the doods time by walking from tank to tank ! And saying what about this or that , I knew dang well I was not going to buy the stuff but he didnt and I tied him up for well over 45 minutes just going tank to tank ! Over all they suck and I personally will not waste my time going back .. The ceo Rick Amore or what ever the heck his name is is an ass hole to say the least ..... But hey what ever floats your boat !
The idiots they have working in the "lighting" section SUCK they did not warn the person I was with to turn to the side when the showed a light to him .... Now I know and you know never look at a fixture but to plug it in with out warning could have caused injury .... What a buch of dorks !!
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I used to like the place more so than now. We had a bunch of people get together to travel there; about 170 miles one way.

When gas was expensive (about $5.00 a gallon) it no longer made sense. It would cost over $100 just for gas and tolls (NJ and PA turnpikes)

Nowadays, its all online and shipped to you, often free of charge. I haven't been there ifor about 5 years.

Back in the days we used to go there for salt and hermits, those two alone paid for the trip. When hermits sold for $2.00 a pop at local LFS, they had them for $.50 or even less with quantity discount. I used to go and pickup say 200 hermits for all of my buddies here and the clerks would allways be like "excuse me", yep 200 - 50 per bag.

You have to understand that some of these kids are bottom earners that just don't take their jobs seriously. This happens in every branch of retail, not just at TPP/TFP. Unfortunately kids have a choice of finishing school nowadays and so high-school diploma is not even needed in their minds. We are going to see much more of this immature/un-educated/not trained attitude everywhere soon. Give it a decade and you'll see that 2010 wasnt that bad.

I don't want to get into politics, but its not going to be pretty. There is an upside; it will be easier for those with college lever education to find jobs (less competition)
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Anyhow, I only stopped by to have you read this. I am telling you there is not much wrong with your tank, if anything.

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Ok due to some issues I have not been online that much and do not get to update any more photos must be taken with a phone cam , I get about 20 minutes of time online couple times a month . Here is the link to my updated stuff of my led project
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Very cool. I've been wanting to do my own DIY LED project. Also kind of been waiting til I have a tank again though lol. Glad to see some progress!
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strange, clicked on the link and accepted the rules got a message 'no thread specified'
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wow sorry not sure why . It would not allow me to post them here but my time is limited on will try again here in a minute
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So how are things going with this. I would like to see an update and the tank, specifically close photos ( not blurry if you can get them ) of the trouble spots.

I am truly interested in the progress on this..
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This is the tank with all led lighting .. stay tuned for the "green chi" sadie style
sorry for the photos . phone shots only for now
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off and on my life has been dramatic and changed and not in a good way . Things happened that are not good so I am off and on ... kinda like a ghost
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Welcome back Sadie, we enjoy your presence here and miss you when you take a break. Can we have some updated full tank shots?
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thanks puffer will work on it promptly , need to work on geting photos via the cell phone . This is the most current with the LED fixture (18 LED )

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