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06-15-2008, 10:34 PM
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Need help on the Chiller...
Just got my current 1/10 chiller.. And I have to flex tube connect it, and I set the temp to 74.. I see the temp is on 74, but nothing happen.. The water is still at 80... Did I connect it wrong??? Is the water suppose to drain from the tank to the chiller and the outake suppose to go back to the tank??? I am not seeing any moment on the chiller.. Please help... is this a defective unit??
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06-15-2008, 10:46 PM
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if i read correctly , you installed your chiller , hooked a pump to it , one side in and one side out. you dont see water coming out the other side , or you dont hear the chiller working ?
most new chiller dont make much noise. and it will take some time to chill the water down.
one thing , why do you want your water at 74. 78 is perfectly fine and it will sve you money on having the chiller on all the time.
have the chiller kick in at 80 and bring it down to 78 , jmo
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06-15-2008, 10:56 PM
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Wait the mins, I need a return pump for it?? Holy cow, I didn't know that, I though is automatic suck it and press it out.. How dumb am I..  Ronnen you have a chiller too?? Do you have a current also?? So I need two pump then? what pump would you recommend??? Damn my is a small tank, this is going be lots of equipments showing out. Do I really need the chiller for a 30 gallon tank?? Or should I just have the fan blowing on it... hmm
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06-15-2008, 11:02 PM
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i have mine hooked up to mine return , maybe get a size bigger as a return pump and hook it up to that ,,
so , youll have the pump , hose to the chiller and hose back to the tank
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06-15-2008, 11:14 PM
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So then One pump is good??? Just from tank water to pump to chiller.. and from chiller hose to tank.. is that correct?? Since I have a Ehiem 1262 sitting here, can I use that one?? Or is that too strong?
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06-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mak
So then One pump is good??? Just from tank water to pump to chiller.. and from chiller hose to tank.. is that correct?? Since I have a Ehiem 1262 sitting here, can I use that one?? Or is that too strong?
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not sure what the spec onthe 1/10th chiller is , take alook at the manual or the web site you purchased it from , it should say , you can always add a valve if ness .
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06-16-2008, 01:40 AM
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Temperature change happens faster in a smaller tank then a larger one obviously, but the question is are you having trouble maintaining your temperature at a consistant level just using the AC in your house? If you keep the environment around the tank pretty consistant the tank should stay fairly consistant.
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06-16-2008, 06:33 AM
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Mak I too have a 30 gallon & I was debating on getting a chiller but Ro pretty much talked me out of it. I use the ac in my apartment and put it on energy save and leave it on all night til about 2pm and my tank stays consistently between 78 & 80 degrees. Plus I have a fan blowing on it.
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06-16-2008, 06:47 AM
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The required flow through the chiller is between 420 gph and 720 gph. I would suggest you get a blueline hd 40 or something with a built in fan in the pump. Depending on your overhead; how much hose is going to be running from the tank, to the pump, from the pump to the chiller and from the chiller back to the tank will determine your pump needs.

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06-16-2008, 07:23 AM
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Yes you need an additional pump to run the chiller. If you don't want to go the route of adding an additional pump then you can do what ronen suggested, t - off the return pump, add a ball valve (so you can control the GPH), and run the line back into the sump or tank.
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06-16-2008, 10:10 AM
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Hmm Now I am thinking should I keep the chiller or not..
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06-16-2008, 10:23 AM
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Jose: , you will also need a ball valve on the return going to the tank. This way you can kinda set it if the water just wants to go up. Mak: If you have a sump i would just go with a mag 7 or something with the same GPH.
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06-16-2008, 10:35 AM
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Hmm Now I am thinking should I keep the chiller or not..
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did you try the fans before like i suggested to you
btw , keep the chiller as back up , youll kick yourself in the  if you need it again
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06-16-2008, 10:54 AM
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Hmm Now I am thinking should I keep the chiller or not..
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Keep it as a back up. If you can keep the temp stable with fans then go that route. Chillers will blow a ton of heat back into the room and in the end result may cause you to waste more electricity trying to cool the room.
My temp has been stable with the AC running at 70 on Energy Save mode. I cool the house and my tank stays at 77. I have to have a heater in there because it will go down to 72 if I don't watch it.
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06-16-2008, 11:04 AM
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Yes I did, I have one on top of the tank, and I have one in front of it... And at this time the water still at 80's ish..
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06-16-2008, 05:58 PM
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The required flow through the chiller is between 420 gph and 720 gph. I would suggest you get a blueline hd 40 or something with a built in fan in the pump. Depending on your overhead; how much hose is going to be running from the tank, to the pump, from the pump to the chiller and from the chiller back to the tank will determine your pump needs.

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Do you have the HD40 on your tank also?? Also, is that a fan in the back of your blueline pump?
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06-16-2008, 06:11 PM
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The pump I have is a hd-20.. I use that one cause the flow requirements for my chiller is only 240 which is exactly what I get with the hose overhead. I use the fan cause my pump does not have a built in cooling fan. I wish it did. The hd-40 is better then iwaki as it is quieter and runs cooler. Hope that helps.. wanted to get the reply in before i shut off my machines.. bad storm rolling in..
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06-16-2008, 06:29 PM
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The pump I have is a hd-20.. I use that one cause the flow requirements for my chiller is only 240 which is exactly what I get with the hose overhead. I use the fan cause my pump does not have a built in cooling fan. I wish it did. The hd-40 is better then iwaki as it is quieter and runs cooler. Hope that helps.. wanted to get the reply in before i shut off my machines.. bad storm rolling in..
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What Iwaki are you comparing it to?
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06-16-2008, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mynd
The required flow through the chiller is between 420 gph and 720 gph. I would suggest you get a blueline hd 40 or something with a built in fan in the pump. Depending on your overhead; how much hose is going to be running from the tank, to the pump, from the pump to the chiller and from the chiller back to the tank will determine your pump needs.
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I have a Current Chiller 1/10 and also, don't you think the Blueline HD 40 will be too strong for it? The HD40 is at 790 flow, while the Chiller is recommend between 420-720. Isn't the HD 30 is a better choice? is rated flow for 590.
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06-16-2008, 07:25 PM
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It all depends on your overhead.. mine is rated at like 490 but with the little bit of hosing I have ( as you can see in the photo ) I lost 250GPH. So since the 40 is rated at 790 and you might lose at least 250, that would put you at about 540 if you have at least what I have with tubing.. if you have more it will be less, but still puts you in the middle. If you would like to go less that is fine, but consider overhead.
As far as blueline being better then iwaki it is more of what I have read online. I will publish this from the manufacturer and I don't want to raise any debate. It's just that I have seen the iwaki pumps in person and feel they are much louded then the blueline. I have to actually touch mine from time to time to see if it is running. Granted it has no built in fan so this one ( hd-20 ) is lots quieter then anything I have every seen or run personally.
I am not talking about the higher end iwaki's either.. I am talking about the aquarium pond pumps that we commonly use.
BlueLine water pumps are designed and built by a former chief engineer from Iwaki-Japan. They feature the same flow curves, high head pressure, low noise, and reliability that have made Iwaki the best magnetic drive pumps available. The BlueLine HD pumps are even slightly quieter than Iwaki, with a lower frequency. These units are yellow rather than green and carry a full 5 Year parts and labor guarantee. All seal-free bearings and magnetic drive for 10+ years of useable life.
If for nothing else the warranty is very decent.
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